How about this for Entrecard?
Entrecard users knew from the start that not everyone was in it for the same reasons and lets face it, there are some blogs we’d rather not waste our time viewing. Blogs that waste our time trying to get rich off their garbage content. Unfortunately, the only system in place as of now, is reviews. Unfortunately, these were being gamed until recently.
So Tyler, what do you suggest?
Well, I wouldn’t want to tamper with the one-click drop method because that would be silly but I want to integrate something into the widget so a user can tell a lot about a blog just by being at said blog.
My proposal is a system such as this:
With this integrated voting system, it will be easier for other bloggers to know if it’s a reputable source or just some more internet garbage so some degree. In an ideal world, there would be some crazy algorithms to back this thing up to prevent gaming but I’ll leave that logic to the Entrecard guys if they like my idea!
Another approach Entrecard can take to limit the amount of abuse would be some additions to the forum. Staying true to the proud design of Entrecard, I’ve crafted my idea of a simple solution.
The reputation would preferably use some ajax that would pop up with a box to fill in a reason. Reporting posts would help admins moderate the forum. A quick link to message a user would be handy as would the edit post button.
What do you all think?
Edit: There is a thread on the Entrecard Forums that answers some FUD related questions.
I like the ratings system in theory, but I think it would get polluted like most ratings systems with people petitioning their friends to up their score.
I don’t like it because people would be voting up friends and voting down competitors, voting based on politics and prejudices. Also, someone with a crappy, junk filled, slow loading blog would get voted down. They would have no chance to fix up their blog or move to a faster host without canceling and resubmitting their blog. What I think might work is a check box saying “Hide this card while searching campaigns” so that you can filter blogs out individually without making it a popularity contest.
I believe the positives out-weight the negatives and all the negatives have solutions to decrease abuse.
Example: Say a user just rated 10 blogs ‘5′ in the past 30 minutes, we know he’s abusing the system. We can then punish accordingly.
As I said above, the system should cover some basics of abuse. If ‘bob’ selects all users with a specific category and votes them 1. We can punish accordingly.
The voting system is more like a karma or reputation system. If we believe for a second that most bloggers are in it for the right reasons, the score should be pretty accurate to the quality of the blog.
How about an ‘opt out’ in the Entrecard system. “Card Drop Classic”.
I think it’s worth a try. The guys at Entrecard seem wiling to try stuff and smart enough to scrap it if there’s issues. Have you suggested it to them yet?
p.s. I would have said something more like “rad site”
Ask and ye shall receive.
Much better
I love it but I’d be stuck with a 1 since I tend to say the truth.
No career in politics for me.
[...] have made. But John has done an elegant job and I completely agree with each and every reason. How about this for Entrecard? - DoKnowEvil - This is a great concept. Please join in the conversation and maybe some good will [...]
Tyler, I’m impressed.
These ideas are really well laid out and thought out.
I’m glad that you liked to your blog instead of the image.
I give the rating system a thumbs up.
It a good idea, but why would they vote before they have even seen the site?????
Sean, I don’t believe you understand the mockups. You aren’t rating the current advertisement in the widget but the site the widget is on.
I think having a rating system is a good one.
It should be worth a shot, & could be scraped if it fails
I like the idea a lot, but I would wonder about one change. How about taking on a stumble kind of feel and just offering 2 clicks, a thumbs up and a thumbs down, instead of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Perhaps the ups and downs could affect the cost of purchasing space on the block?
As always, this will only work (as with your 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 method) if people are honest. Would be unfair to have everyone voting down people in order to lessen the prices of advertising on their spots.
I am interested to see if something will come of this!
[...] Know Evil blog, submitted a post to CyberStreet that has two very unique ideas for EntreCard. The idea I am most fond of is the drop and vote concept. Essentially, every time you drop [...]
I can see EC doing this when they’ve got a pretty good user base, say 10k+, when they have to start to find more ways to weed out unwanted blogs. But right now, without the voting system, EC is attracting a lot of people because it’s a nice way to send traffic to anyone’s blog, without prejudice.
Besides, isn’t the cost of placing an ad and the 125×125 icon considered good enough indication if the site’s worth visiting, or not?
I don’t believe it is enough. I can think of a few sites that are in the top 3 for their category that don’t deserve to be for reasons such as scrapping.
I believe a lot of people just have them in their rounds and are too lazy to replace the blogs with quality ones.
I think this is a great idea because there are a lot of crap sites out there. This will actually keep people from just searching sites to drop their cards -or at least encourage them to not just drop and leave.
Those are some great ideas. I love your work and you obviously understand web users. There is alot of crap. hopefully my site isn’t one of them.
Seems like Turnip suggested what you originally suggested:
http://turnipofpower.com/2008/05/01/proposal-to-filter-out-entrecard-splogs/